6 Years Without Kodak TMAX P3200 (ALMOST!)

UPDATE:  THIS BLOG WAS PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN AND WAS SET TO AUTO PUBLISH IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.  HOWEVER, KODAK HAS OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT THEY ARE BRINGING BACK KODAK TMAX P3200!!!!   I HOPE YOU’LL FIND MY WRITE-UP INTERESTING IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS!

Exactly 6 years ago, on October 3rd, 2012, international photography news outlets began reporting that Kodak had announced that one of their most innovative, game-changing films, TMAX P3200 was discontinued.

To me, the two films synonymous with “photojournalism” are Kodak Tri-X and Kodak TMAX P3200.  And now one was gone.

Kodak TMAX P3200 was the first widely available high-speed film.  It allowed photojournalists to take to the streets at night; to shoot in the dark smokey bars where youthful drama and dreams go to thrive or die, in the dim local clubs and cramped concert venues where music finds its first audience then catches fire in the world’s hearts and minds.  Kodak TMAX P3200 took us to places we’d all experienced but couldn’t previously record in their natural state.  The release of Kodak TMAX P3200 was a watershed moment in available light photography.  Surely it’s discontinuation would be a pitfall.

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Stephanie Lee | Nikon FM| Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d| Kodak TMAX P3200
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PromiseLab | Nikon FM | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak Tmax P3200
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Vinyl Rhino | Leica M6 TTL | Voigtlander 50mm 1.5 Nokton | Kodak TMAX P3200 | Kodak HC110b
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Christa + Ben | Nikon FM | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d| Kodak TMAX P3200 | Kodak HC110b

It’s hard to believe that prior to 1988, there was no 3200 ISO film.  Built-in light meters have long measured up to 3200 or 6400 but if you were shooting at night without a flash, you were push processing.  If you were handing 400 ISO film to a lab, they were charging you for a three stop push to get to 3200.  This probably doubled your processing cost.  and if you were processing at home, well, you’d better get your times and temps right!

3200 ISO films require more than double the amount of silver of slower films yet they are considerably less used and purchased.  These basic physics have always kept 3200 films costly to produce with a slim profit, even at their relatively high cost to the consumer.  By 2012, as digital photography took over, Kodak just couldn’t bear any more labors of love.

I had been learning to shoot in the dark with P3200 since about 2007.  I never liked the concept of flash photography.  I didn’t like drawing attention to myself while shooting.  I didn’t like interrupting people and scenes.  I wanted to be invisible.  I wanted my photographs to be honest and unforced.  I wanted to photograph the essence of people.  While I admire those hyper sharp close-up portraits of highly textured faces, I don’t believe that a person’s soul resides in highly defined lines on the surface of their skin.  I believe that randomly dispersed film grain fills shapes and movements so that we can look beyond the obvious and deeper into the person where something intangible hangs out.  With P3200, I felt like I’d hit my artistic stride.  Finally, a film that allowed me to shoot the way I wanted to shoot.

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Wedding Guest |Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak Tmax P3200 @ 6400
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Lipstick Lamar | Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak TMAX P3200 @ 6400 | Kodak HC110b
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Jennie Kander in Designated Drivers | Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak TMAX P3200 @ 6400 | Kodak HC110b

By 2011, film labs across the United States were placing “Permanently Closed” signs in their windows.  I had to completely revamp my personal and business photography practices to keep shooting film in this new ecosystem.

Then in January, 2012 Kodak filed for bankruptcy.  The rapid and relentless climb of consumer digital photography turned the size and weight of the megalithic film titan in on itself like a collapsing star, fighting its own gravity.  Something had to break.

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James V. Mignogna’s Leica M4 | Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 50mm 1.4 AIS | Kodak TMAX P3200 | Kodak HC110b

So on October 3rd of 2012, when they took TMAX P3200 away, I felt like photography was over for me.  Friends online kept tagging me in posts about P3200 and one of my photos was featured in a Czech article about the discontinuation.  It seemed I had painted myself into a corner.  Yes, we still had Ilford Delta 3200 but I was a Kodak guy and surely if P3200 was gone, Ilford might choose to make the same decision.

So what could I do?  I bought 60 rolls of TMAX P3200 from B&H that morning at the then customary $7.19 per roll, before the price began to hike.

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Within maybe 6 or 8 months, I think most places were charging over $12 per roll for P3200.  I resolved not to buy any of this “scalped” film though and to reluctantly switch to Ilford Delta 3200.  I didn’t want to invest in a film that no longer existed.  I didn’t want to line the pockets of scalpers with money that could be used to support the production of fresh film.  I wanted to throw all my money at Ilford to essentially beg them not to stop the press.

It felt like a desperate move.  I preferred the tonality of P3200 and used HC110 to process my 100 and 400 ISO films.  There did not seem to be agreed upon times for processing Delta 3200 with HC110.  Delta was sharper and more contrasty than P3200.  Switching made me find different light than I’d found with the Kodak and I came to prefer lenses with softer performance at full aperture to combat the sharpness of the Ilford.  With some experimenting, I worked out 18 to 20 minutes at 68 degrees Fahrenheit to process Delta 3200 at 6400 in HC110b.

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Leica M6 TTL .85 | Leitz 5cm 1.5 Summarit | Ilford Delta 3200 @ 6400 | Kodak HC110b
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Leica M6 TTL | Leitz Summarit 5cm 1.5 | Ilford Delta 3200 @ 6400 | Kodak HC110b
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The Posers | Leica M6 TTL .85 | Leitz 5cm 1.5 Summarit | Ilford Delta 3200 at 6400 | Kodak HC110b

It’s been 6 years now.  Eastman Kodak has morphed into Kodak Alaris and I burned my last rolls of P3200 over three years ago.  I’ve become a Delta 3200 guy, and happily so.  Between just being older and more experienced, maybe it’s not really the film itself but I am liking the work I’ve done on Delta, in many ways, more than I’d done with P3200.   While I wish I had more choice, I feel stable right now.  And I don’t miss P3200 as much as I thought I would.  But I do look back on it with some very pleasant memories.

Ilford hasn’t had all the drama in the news like Kodak and Fuji.  They haven’t discontinued anything amidst Kodak’s slowdown of film innovation and Fuji’s seemingly nonsensical random hopscotch of film discontinuations.  Ilford has just continued, seemingly unshaken.

So I’m happy to say that in the 6 years since Kodak TMAX P3200 disappeared, my personal view is that things are looking just fine for film photography and available light photojournalism.  I hope things are good with your work too!  Thanks for reading!

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Krista | Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak TMax P3200 @ 6400
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Brittany | Nikon FM2n | Nikkor 50mm 1.4 AIS | Kodak Tmax P3200 @ 6400 | Push Processed in Rodinal by My Good Friend James V. Mignogna
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Speedway Operators | I really don’t remember what camera/lens I shot this with, probably a Nikon but it’s Kodak TMAX P3200 processed in Kodak hc110b!
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Wedding Guests | Nikon F3 or FM2n | Nikkor 50mm 1.8 AIS or 85mm 1.8 AI’d | Kodak TMAX P3200  @ 6400| Kodak HC110b

Thanks so much for reading.  Happy low-light shooting and if you have any Kodak TMAX P3200 images that you’d like to share to celebrate this wonderful film, please link them in the comments below!

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21 thoughts on “6 Years Without Kodak TMAX P3200 (ALMOST!)

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  1. I never shot the stuff back in the day but now that it’s reintroduced, I’m curious about it. Thanks for sharing some of your (lovely) work with it so I can get a sense for the stuff!

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  2. I was looking through the freezer about a year ago and found a bag in the bottom with 6 rolls of P3200 I have 1 left. I too had switched to Ilford Delta 3200 when I needed it.

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    1. This is my favorite film. I love it for nature and outdoors work. It is not 3200 iso, it is around 800 iso. The number on the box “p3200” means you May push it to 3200 and it’ll hold up well. That isn’t its film speed

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      1. Always happy to meet another fervent 3200 shooter. I actually firmly disagree with the nominal speed thing people seem obsessed with making note of in the last 5 or so years when a certain prominent but inarticulate lab owner posted an article on the subject which he has since removed after talking to me. I think it has created a lot confusion about what to rate and process this film at that didn’t exist when I was newer to photography. The Kodak B&W Darkroom Dataguide refers to 3200 as normal processing and above this as pushing. Also, the DX code printed on the film is 3200. This means that if the film is put into camera that reads DX codes or an automated mini lab, the film speed will be set to 3200 in each case. The nominal speed is not even an exact number. Some people say 800, some people say 1000. It’s just not relevant or useful to keep saying this in my opinion. How do you rate and process your P3200? Does it make any practical difference in your work what the nominal ISO is?

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  3. Fortunately you can buy Tmax p3200 again now at B&H for k my $8.99 per roll – which is even cheaper than Delta 3200. Nice article, I was wondering how long P3200 was discontinued for. Still waiting for Ektachrome to return!

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    1. Thanks for reading! Yes, the price point is very competitive. I was lucky for Kodak to send me my first rolls of new P3200 for free and the images made Petapixel but I am burning through more now!

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